The Struggle to do Good

[brokenreflector]

First of all, your question isn't even a good one and it's not going to end up like how you think it will. The more interesting question is the one I posed.

It's no trick question like " when did you stop beating your wife?". It's a simple question about your, state of mind, your ability to empathize with others. You could just as well be a psychopath, I don't know.

It's a good question, the answer is the foundation for any further discussion about morality in that if the answer is " yes", then indeed you need  somebody to stop you from killing. I don't. Do you?
If you do, then we may discuss how we can provide you with some basic rules you can follow, so you won't pose any threat to society. Providing a deity could be a way to achieve this.

The only expectation I have from your answer is that it's honest. I gave you mine, because the question is very simple to answer for anyone .... But you for some reason. Why is that? Would an answer, ANY answer trigger cognitive dissonance maybe?

Do you need a deity to keep you from killing? I do not. I think most other people on this planet don't need one as well.
Am I correct in assuming you don't either?

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First of all, your question isn't even a good one and it's not going to end up like how you think it will. The more interesting question is the one I posed.


In order for you to say "I dont," you'd have to presuppose that God doesn't exist and didn't create you.

Since you don't presuppose a deity does not exist, is that your way of saying "I do"?*
In order to say in don't I just have to give you my state of mind: I don't. See, it's easy.

You are still deflecting. You are talking about the reasons for your answer, instead of giving it, and are trying to avoid it at all, at all cost.

What I want is just a simple answer to a simple question: do you need a deity to keep you from killing? I don't. No reasons needed, just a statement.

*That's what you got from trying to shift the burden of proof

I don't think existence is possible without God. And if God is the creator of all things outside of Himself, then our faculties and moral intuitions are from Him. What's more, objective moral values and duties cannot exist without God.

You saying you can be good without God is true only if God doesn't exist.