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The Struggle to do Good
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(June 7, 2020 at 5:09 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I don't think existence is possible without God.
You are still evading.
I didn't ask about existence. I asked if you need a deity to keep you from killing.


(June 7, 2020 at 5:09 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I don't think existence is possible without God.
And if God is the creator of all things outside of Himself, then our faculties and moral intuitions are from Him.
If...if..if... That only would be relevant to my question: do you need a deity to keep you from killing?

(June 7, 2020 at 5:09 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I
What's more, objective moral values and duties cannot exist without God.
Irrelevant to my question, which was........

(June 7, 2020 at 5:09 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I
You saying you can be good without God is true only if God doesn't exist.
I gave you the courtesy to tell you about my state of mind, so we can begin a discussion about the need for morals from outside your own mind. I don't need a God to tell me not to kill. Do you?
Would you please return that fucking courtesy?
Is not my fault that you think your God does not exist as soon as you admit to be a human being with empathy.Maybe your God does exist AND you don't need him to fix your non-existing killing issue. In this case you should correct your faulty reasoning instead of avoiding simple questions.

Your God may exist, and he may ask a lot of me, like not wearing mixed fabric. But he doesn't need to tell me about killing. So I don't need to discuss killing with you. What about you?

Do you need a deity to stop you from killing, regardless it's existence? I am not asking if you think a god (must) exist, but if you have the desire to kill.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by ignoramus - May 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 30, 2020 at 10:05 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2020 at 10:16 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 30, 2020 at 11:03 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Anomalocaris - May 31, 2020 at 12:41 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 12:52 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 12:56 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:19 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 2:05 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:22 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 2:46 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Anomalocaris - May 31, 2020 at 8:22 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 1:25 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:33 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Pat Mustard - May 31, 2020 at 12:02 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - May 31, 2020 at 5:18 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Pat Mustard - May 31, 2020 at 8:05 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by arewethereyet - May 31, 2020 at 2:10 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 2:16 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 2:28 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Shuffle - May 31, 2020 at 2:30 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:50 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 2:55 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:58 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 3:06 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 3:07 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by arewethereyet - May 31, 2020 at 2:51 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:52 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 31, 2020 at 3:01 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Fake Messiah - May 31, 2020 at 3:34 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 11:36 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - May 31, 2020 at 8:14 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Gwaithmir - May 31, 2020 at 4:35 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - May 31, 2020 at 5:07 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Shuffle - May 31, 2020 at 5:55 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - May 31, 2020 at 6:08 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Deesse23 - May 31, 2020 at 6:00 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - May 31, 2020 at 6:39 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Little lunch - May 31, 2020 at 9:31 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by possibletarian - June 7, 2020 at 8:29 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brewer - May 31, 2020 at 8:59 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Grandizer - May 31, 2020 at 2:37 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2020 at 6:04 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Rhizomorph13 - May 31, 2020 at 6:41 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Shuffle - May 31, 2020 at 6:48 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2020 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Architect Of Fate - May 31, 2020 at 7:14 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 8:10 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Architect Of Fate - May 31, 2020 at 8:29 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Paleophyte - June 1, 2020 at 12:28 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by onlinebiker - June 1, 2020 at 7:41 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by arewethereyet - June 1, 2020 at 7:45 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 1, 2020 at 8:32 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Gwaithmir - June 1, 2020 at 8:48 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 1, 2020 at 9:01 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by onlinebiker - June 1, 2020 at 9:03 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 1, 2020 at 9:04 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 1, 2020 at 9:18 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by onlinebiker - June 2, 2020 at 6:47 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - June 2, 2020 at 7:18 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brewer - June 1, 2020 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 12:28 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Paleophyte - June 2, 2020 at 11:05 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Architect Of Fate - June 3, 2020 at 9:10 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 6:51 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 6:59 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - June 2, 2020 at 7:25 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Duty - June 2, 2020 at 6:53 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 6:54 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 6:59 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 7:09 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Architect Of Fate - June 2, 2020 at 7:20 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 8:04 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 8:27 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - June 2, 2020 at 8:31 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 8:32 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 8:59 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2020 at 9:04 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 9:12 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 9:31 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Architect Of Fate - June 2, 2020 at 10:00 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 2, 2020 at 10:08 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - June 2, 2020 at 4:02 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - June 6, 2020 at 9:15 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2020 at 9:43 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Silver - June 6, 2020 at 9:46 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 6, 2020 at 8:03 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - June 6, 2020 at 8:50 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 6, 2020 at 10:00 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 12:03 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 3:49 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Deesse23 - June 7, 2020 at 4:18 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 5:09 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 6, 2020 at 11:21 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 5:49 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 5:57 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 6:03 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 6:17 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Paleophyte - June 7, 2020 at 10:59 pm
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 6:23 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 6:29 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 6:58 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by downbeatplumb - June 7, 2020 at 12:17 pm
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 7, 2020 at 7:42 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 7:58 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - June 7, 2020 at 8:07 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - June 7, 2020 at 8:16 am
RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Silver - June 7, 2020 at 8:32 am
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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Silver - June 7, 2020 at 8:11 am
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