The Struggle to do Good

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The good and the bad based on the nature of a given subject, god.  

We've been through this several times already. I've tried teaching you what objective (and subjective) means, but you're unwilling or unable to learn. I don't know if you have a mental deficiency or if you're just being intellectually dishonest.

Regardless, a thing is objective if it's existence is independent of any subject's perception. God's moral nature is independent of any subject's perception. Therefore, God's moral nature is objective.

Where did god get those morals?

If he just deciding what is good or bad then they are subjective.

Oh and how is god imparting his morals to people?

It isn't through the bible. if you lived by biblical morals you would be rightfully imprisoned.

I think I am quite a moral person and I don't think there is a god.

So where do I get my morals?

Humans are a social creature and like all social animals we have behaviours that are acceptable and if we transgress we are punished.
But more than that I have empathy, when I see another person or animal treated badly I can imagine myself in there place and I don't like it.

There is a way that has been used to lessen empathy and that is to "Other" people. They aren't one of "us" so we can treat them as lesser. One of the main ways to do this through religion.

So I think religions make people less moral.

This is a widely held view in the UK where religious people are viewed as less moral the atheists.

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2018/01/bri...than-good/

An eye-opening survey conducted in the UK reveals a truth many in the United States will find shocking. When asked if atheists are more or less moral than religious people, our allies across the pond favor atheists.
The British feel those who identify as atheists are more likely to be good people. In fact, 12.5% of Britons believe atheists are more moral, while only 6% say atheists are less moral.
Fewer than a quarter of Britons believe religion is a force for good. On the contrary, over half believe religion does more harm than good. Even 20% of Britons who describe themselves as ‘very religious’ are on record stating religion is harmful to society.