Scripture for Trinitarians

[DeistPaladin]

yep ... right back around the circle.

At some point you just have to say, "I've listened to enough pseudo-intellectual diarrhea. You have nothing to offer." and then walk away.



...or go right back 'round the circle.

Quite correct. He's generating fucktardery faster than I have the energy or patience to debunk. Much as I compulsively try to reason with the unreasonable, I'm seeing the futility in having a discussion with someone who doesn't understand that:

1. A Pat Robertson staged and edited propaganda piece is not a credible testimony.
2. You can't be AWOL from a commander that is omniscient (no chance to be absent from someone who can see everywhere) and omnipotent (no chance to escape the commander's authority).
3. Saying "I'm having my cake and eating it too" is an admission of believing an absurdity just because you want something both ways.

That said, for the benefit of the other readers, I will focus on the topic of the OP and post the conflict of scripture and why they came up with this contrived word salad known as The Trinity.

OT Yahweh says "I forbid you to have an intercessor:

Exodus 20:3 (First Commandment) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Isaiah 43:10-12 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

Yahweh makes it clear through the OT that he is a jealous god who interacts personally with his followers ("speaking face to face as one speaks to a friend") who needs no intercessor and who delegates the role of judge or savior to no one! Often, the crime that would cause him to bring plagues and invaders to Israel would be idolatry or turning to other gods.

Now compare this jealous attention hungry god to the one of the NT, who requires you to have an intercessor:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So how do you reconcile the two? Say Jesus is God. So who is Jesus praying to, talking to, being subordinate to? Well, that's when Jesus is not God. And so the mental gymnastics commence.