Rhythm Wrote:God created the universe out of what then, since nothing isn't an option?Well, God can break the rules.
lucent Wrote:"Dynamical interactions" don't explain it.Please explain to me what aspect of the 'ordering' process is not explained by the dynamical interactions between potential fields. This appears to contradict my understanding of physics. Systems 'order' due the relationships between they and their interacting fields.
lucent Wrote:I would also ask why God is any less probable than any of those theories.God is not a theory as it only add an unnecessary step, says "stop asking", and makes no distinct future predictions.
lucent Wrote:Design in the Universe is so obvious that the "multiple universe theory" is proposed to eliminate the problem of the impossibility of the odds against such a Universe like ours from spontaneously occuring.This makes no sense. There are a wide variety of interpretations which have multiple universes and I cannot ascertain to which you are referring based on your post. Some of them have no bearing on the topic at hand. Some of them validate object existence. Some validate subjective existence.
Rarity is not an indication of design, and as it is off topic, I suggest starting a new thread or referencing an existing one if you want to discuss it.
lucent Wrote:I will suggest that the problem people have with God has nothing to do with probability and everything to do with an imagined right to complete freedom for self-determination which isn't even logically possible without God.This is nonsense. The topic of non-determinism is still contested amongst Christians. Furthermore, physics largely makes no assumptions about will, so the problem of your suggestion is wrong.
lucent Wrote:What if in this example everyone is a part of God?That would require a background system...
lucent Wrote:I brought this up as an example to explain the apparent contradiction of our subjective existence in an objective world (read: thread topic).toro Wrote:This is only possible if we assume there is no objective background universe of which we are interacting.
This explanation creates a rather simple solution: the world isn't objective.