RE: Is there free will in heaven?
October 27, 2011 at 2:10 am
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2011 at 2:12 am by lucent.)
(October 27, 2011 at 1:53 am)Shell B Wrote: We're not going to discuss that, lucent. Whether or not god is corrupt is irrelevant. I will not give you another platform from which to launch your preaching. We are discussing.
1. If there is freewill in heaven?
2. If yes, how can it be considered freewill if we cannot choose to go there or not to go there?
3. Does what we "deserve" have any bearing on it and, if so, why is it okay for anyone to judge what we deserve for all of eternity.
I believe that sums it up. Remember, I do not believe in god. I do not believe it is a judge. I do not believe it has any rights, as it does not exist. I will not bandy in hypotheticals with you any longer. Refer back to my post and you will see that the important points, those that were not dragged off topic, are at the bottom.
Okay, let me get this straight. You don't want to have a conversation about whether God has a right to judge us, but you do want to have a conversation about:
1. If there is freewill in heaven? (a place God created)
2. If yes, how can it be considered freewill if we cannot choose to go there or not to go there? (whether or not being assigned to Heaven or Hell by God is free will or not)
3. Does what we "deserve" have any bearing on it and, if so, why is it okay for anyone to judge what we deserve for all of eternity. (how what we deserve according to God fits in and why God has any right to judge our eternal fate)
(October 27, 2011 at 1:53 am)Shell B Wrote: I believe that sums it up. Remember, I do not believe in god. I do not believe it is a judge. I do not believe it has any rights, as it does not exist. I will not bandy in hypotheticals with you any longer. Refer back to my post and you will see that the important points, those that were not dragged off topic, are at the bottom.
Glad you cleared that up. I'll be sure to stay away from the topics that you don't want to discuss and concentrate on the ones you approved here. I'll be sure not to discuss God or His judgement even in a hypothetical sense whilst we discuss God and His judgement hypothetically.