Overpopulation

[Ace Otana]

Again Ace, I (and Sae) understand that resources are finite, that only so many people can be crammed on this rock. When we have dealt with the glaring inefficiencies of many of our systems we can talk about that number. If that number relies on us continuing to fuck it up, with full knowledge that we're fucking it up, in what way is that a problem with earths carrying capacity? Sounds like a human problem (and not one of overpopulation). Is it honestly so difficult to understand that I'd rather fix problems we know about before I start telling people who can have children, and how many they can have?

Our environment can only produce so much. We've already started to exceed our limitations. Telling people how many they can have won't work. We need to instil a sense of understanding. That by not having kids, you'd be doing yourself and everyone else a favour. It's one less demand for space, food and water.

There is a vast portion of this earth called the third world, which is usually the third world because it lacks any sort of development whatsoever.

Fresh water shortages are global. It will hit hotter and less advanced countries first and hardest.

Do you honestly feel that we've run out of space and resources to do what we need to do when large tracts of this rock are essentially still stuck in the iron age (and when some systems in the 1st world appear to be stuck in the iron age as well)?

Yes. Not ran out, but running short.

We may have new numbers on this, but last I checked, humans represented .33% of earths total biomass. Does that lend itself well to the idea that there are too many of us as is?
(just looked it up, our farm animals and crops amount to another 3.7%, making the grand total of our actions and existence (by biomass) 4%)

And we consume more resources than any other species of animal on this planet. We're producing huge amounts of Co2, our towns and cities radiate huge amounts of thermal energy. We've destroyed huge forests, and built on greenbelts and ruined habitats for our own benefit. When does it become wrong? We don't just use fresh water to hydrate ourselves, we use it for food production, factory production, gardening and turning deserts into green fields for more food production.

I feel very sadden that no one cares or understands, personally I don't think we can prevent water shortages. Can't make a difference because no one is listening. Perhaps we deserve what's coming.