(June 9, 2009 at 6:34 pm)peace2u Wrote: (and please do not twist my words my referring to beatings or advocating violence towards women because that’s not the case)Stop saying that. Nobody is twisting your words. You are the one who keeps typing things like "sometimes the husband may require to hit her wife". Hitting anyone is considered violence by all civilized cultures. Hitting anyone whilst they are not allowed to hit back (whether through submission or restriction) is considered a beating by all civilized cultures. If you say a husband is sometimes required to hit their wife, then you have two options:
Either in Islam the husband is allowed to beat his wife,
OR Islam is not a civilized religion.
Let's forget your claim that a woman can beat her husband back, because I think that claim is laughable given the relative strengths of women to men, and the fact that Islamic culture is ruled by men. On no occasion should any person be allowed to beat anyone else unless permission is granted from both parties (i.e. a boxing match pretty much needs this to work).
I say that any culture/religion that allows anyone to beat another is not civilized at all, and needs to be discarded.
Quote:I recommend you read into the nature of men and women behaviour. You come to know that our feelings, thoughts, emotions and reactions somewhat differ. Once you read into this area hopefully my full explanation of the verse will make sense. As well as, you have to take into account of the marriage principles in Islam from both the husbands and wives perspective.Nobody is doubting that women and men are different, but perhaps you should try and get a girlfriend at some point to learn about their actual behaviour rather than rely on books. Books cannot teach you how to love someone else.