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Trump vs Biden
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RE: Trump vs Biden
(November 4, 2020 at 6:59 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Not a surprise that we don't have an answer on the election yet.

Very disheartened by it all.

People suck.

The left learnt the wrong lessons from the victories of the 90's. Instead of realising that the essentially won by default (Major was a spent force in 97, you could gave beaten Shrub the elder with dog shit on a stick in 92 and so on), they thought that by going "moderate" (essentially chasing after the same voters that went right as a matter of course) they would continue winning for the forseeable future.

That all started falling apart in the Noughties when the limitations of putting a veneer of conscience on right wing policies became evident and when the actual right wingers started getting their shit together and got back their constituents.

The lesson wasn't "we should compromise on all our goals and views to win", it was "we're really shit at selling our goals and views, and how they help everybody. We should work on publicising them better". You can see that from the countries were left wing parties have had a resurgence in the last ten or so years, they've become more savvy at putting across their policies, they haven't ditched them.

Edit: Plus you've also got the problem that the US electoral system is broken from the bottom to the top, and that its constitution is not fit for the purpose of governing a country in the 19th century, let alone the 21st.
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Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 3, 2020 at 9:03 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Pat Mustard - November 3, 2020 at 11:22 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by onlinebiker - November 3, 2020 at 9:15 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fake Messiah - November 3, 2020 at 9:58 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 3, 2020 at 10:04 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Mister Agenda - November 3, 2020 at 10:23 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 3, 2020 at 10:25 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Mister Agenda - November 3, 2020 at 10:30 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by onlinebiker - November 3, 2020 at 10:30 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Duty - November 3, 2020 at 11:04 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 3, 2020 at 11:06 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by zebo-the-fat - November 3, 2020 at 12:22 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by The Valkyrie - November 3, 2020 at 2:54 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fake Messiah - November 3, 2020 at 3:35 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Sal - November 4, 2020 at 5:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 10:50 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Secular Elf - November 3, 2020 at 6:07 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Rhizomorph13 - November 3, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 3, 2020 at 1:01 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Rhizomorph13 - November 3, 2020 at 1:03 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 3, 2020 at 8:41 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fake Messiah - November 3, 2020 at 9:00 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by The Architect Of Fate - November 3, 2020 at 9:22 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 4, 2020 at 6:59 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Pat Mustard - November 4, 2020 at 9:38 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 4, 2020 at 10:01 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Mister Agenda - November 4, 2020 at 10:25 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 5, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Dundee - November 5, 2020 at 6:27 pm
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fake Messiah - November 6, 2020 at 6:37 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 6:40 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 6, 2020 at 7:10 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Losty - November 8, 2020 at 10:03 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 8, 2020 at 10:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by The Architect Of Fate - November 8, 2020 at 11:01 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Rhizomorph13 - November 8, 2020 at 12:51 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fake Messiah - November 6, 2020 at 10:03 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 6, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 6, 2020 at 10:06 am
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 6, 2020 at 10:16 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 10:21 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 6, 2020 at 12:59 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 6, 2020 at 1:01 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by arewethereyet - November 6, 2020 at 1:04 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fireball - November 6, 2020 at 10:54 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 10:57 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Silver - November 6, 2020 at 11:41 am
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Sal - November 6, 2020 at 5:50 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Divinity - November 6, 2020 at 6:00 pm
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 9:28 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Fireball - November 6, 2020 at 9:35 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 6, 2020 at 9:38 pm
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RE: Trump vs Biden - by Brian37 - November 7, 2020 at 8:37 am
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