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The United States of inclusivity
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RE: The United States of inclusivity
(December 7, 2020 at 10:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No need to scare up swastikas or confederate flags. There are plenty of culturally german and culturally southern things that aren't those things - but are still unaccepted or stereotyped or negatively appraised by some other culture to which germans or southern people are seeking entry.

A specific example may be more or less egregious between cultures, but the underlying behavior is phenomenally equivalent. Maybe some women wear a scarf on their head for the same reasons that another wears a scarf on her crotch. Maybe they feel naked without it, maybe they think it's pretty. Maybe they just wake up everyday and put one on. Maybe they're too cold without it, or too hot without it.

Maybe it's not a statement on whether or not beating women is okay...not in life, and not in film.

Inclusivity means that we accept people, even the ones that wear scarves - not that we accept the idea of beating women - and it's absurd to suggest that it would. That's not a rational appraisal of the field, it's a product of a nutball overton shift - of trying to find the Middle Ground™ between the right leaning left and stratospheric rights views in the culture war.

IMO...the difference between a trash bag and a headdress is what you fill it with.

Do we define every other phenomenon by edge cases? Of course many women wear headscarf for identity and are otherwise quite assertive and independent—you couldn’t call them victims of patriarchy. But so is the case with black facing and N word using comedians or public figures. They don’t mean it in disparagingly but it carries on with the burden of exactly that.

Hijab is first foremost a tool of patriarchy creating customs and practices with punitive measures for women across the globe. Women do get beaten, even in west, for not wearing hijab. They get a lot more in other countries.

Point is, we go with what the majority sees and views and practices it as, not by some exceptional cases. Also, I am not talking about people, I am talking about idea, practice, the underlying dynamics.

I am not asking not to make Linda Sarsour organizer of women’s march—I asking why no one is asking her the inherent hypocrisy.

We can do both, no? Or should we just go with one and close eyes to other?
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The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 6, 2020 at 2:07 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2020 at 2:17 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 6, 2020 at 2:34 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 6, 2020 at 3:51 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2020 at 5:13 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Silver - December 6, 2020 at 5:15 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2020 at 5:48 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2020 at 4:39 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Chas - December 6, 2020 at 7:37 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 6, 2020 at 7:42 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2020 at 8:01 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Chas - December 6, 2020 at 8:20 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 6, 2020 at 9:09 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Rev. Rye - December 6, 2020 at 7:58 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 6, 2020 at 8:14 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by ignoramus - December 6, 2020 at 8:58 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 12:02 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 1:50 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 7, 2020 at 2:04 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 7, 2020 at 4:22 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 7, 2020 at 7:03 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 9:16 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 10:26 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 11:20 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 11:35 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 11:40 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 11:44 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 12:01 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 12:11 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 2:15 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 2:23 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 2:28 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2020 at 2:31 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 8:00 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 7, 2020 at 9:43 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 10:00 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 7, 2020 at 10:11 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Rev. Rye - December 7, 2020 at 11:21 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 10:22 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 7, 2020 at 10:30 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 7, 2020 at 10:49 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 8, 2020 at 6:52 am
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 9, 2020 at 2:04 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Belacqua - December 9, 2020 at 6:41 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2020 at 2:13 pm
RE: The United States of inclusivity - by Apollo - December 9, 2020 at 2:15 pm

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