RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
December 15, 2020 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2020 at 2:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Oh I don't think you should have to, and I certainly don't envy any person who would...but it was a suggestion you offered.
Can we agree that the only way that option 4 is true is for the horrid shit to improve us, and for there to be a moral justification for improving us in that way? As in, for option 4 to be true...option 4 must be true......
If we can agree to that, then option four is a provably true..or provably false..... contention..in this life. As such, god beliefs based on that contention are, themselves, provably true or false. If a person believes in the god of the soul forge, and there's no soul forge..then there's no god of the soul forge. If a person believes in the good god of the soul forge, and the soul forge is evil, then there is no good god of the soul forge.
When we commit to cognitive assertions we open those assertions and whatever conclusions we draw from them up to rational scrutiny in this life, the same sort of scrutiny we use to declare any other thing true or false. Which..I suppose, sucks..because we want to rationalize our beliefs (at least), but not necessarily side with reason over our beliefs.
-particularly when we find ourselves mixing claims about what is - the existence of soul forge...and what should be, whether or not the soul forge, it it existed, is good.
Can we agree that the only way that option 4 is true is for the horrid shit to improve us, and for there to be a moral justification for improving us in that way? As in, for option 4 to be true...option 4 must be true......
If we can agree to that, then option four is a provably true..or provably false..... contention..in this life. As such, god beliefs based on that contention are, themselves, provably true or false. If a person believes in the god of the soul forge, and there's no soul forge..then there's no god of the soul forge. If a person believes in the good god of the soul forge, and the soul forge is evil, then there is no good god of the soul forge.
When we commit to cognitive assertions we open those assertions and whatever conclusions we draw from them up to rational scrutiny in this life, the same sort of scrutiny we use to declare any other thing true or false. Which..I suppose, sucks..because we want to rationalize our beliefs (at least), but not necessarily side with reason over our beliefs.
-particularly when we find ourselves mixing claims about what is - the existence of soul forge...and what should be, whether or not the soul forge, it it existed, is good.
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