Quote:And another reason why the watchmaker argument completely fails, is that theists claim that their god designed everything.
That is a failure of a specific argument for a specific watchmaker who is, himself, not a made watch.
If you assert the existence of infinite watchmakers going all the way up (and perhaps down, we are made watches who make watches which, maybe someday, will be sufficiently advanced to make their own watches), it's not failing until you add excess complexity by further asserting extra qualities to our watchmaker.