(March 6, 2021 at 11:29 am)Klorophyll Wrote:(March 5, 2021 at 10:56 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yeah, no better way to prove intelligent design than with the flaw in the design.
Believe it or not, you got a point. Flaws in design directly prove design, because without them we wouldn't know what the "right" design is supposed to look like. It's because there are flaws in software that programmers figure out there is better possible software, and manage to improve it/update it or create a superior version altogether.
It's precisely because there are, for example, birth defects or congenital deformities, that the human body is a designed machine. Think about it, if all the combined brainpower of these biologists and medical researchers couldn't adjust the microscopic-scale genetic deformities responsible for most incurable diseases, then clearly the absence of these genetic deformities in healthy individuals indicates a superbly skilled designer, who crafted a world with such a configuration that permits gradual self-improvement through natural selection. In a world without birth defects and disease, medicine wouldn't exist, we probably wouldn't have discovered cells or DNA and, more importantly, no one would have mentioned the word fine tuning or design.
Wow! I do read a lot of stupid posts on this forum by religiously zealous people, but sometimes I read such insanity that it scares me.
Using this kind of insanity you can make anything look like evidence of an intelligent design by a perfect being: "a perfect being designed humans by giving them unnecessary flaws (like children being born without heart) because it's like a carpenter taking acid and making a table that falls apart."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"