The Watchmaker: my fav argument

[Pat Mustard]

Hey, idiot! If your god designed us we would be perfect, simply because as the perfect, ultimate, being that's how he'd design us.

The first three chapters of the Bible describe a world originally created good, that subsequently fell into death and imperfection. This is a basic Christian narrative (perhaps it's different in Islam). How does your claim fit into this narrative? You seem to be making objections that are detached from even an elementary reading of Scripture.

The first three chapters of the bible contains two discrete fictional creation stories, which are mutually incompatible.  And it describes humans as being the same as they are now, ie highly imperfect.

Tell me what possible reason is there for a reasonable person to use the bible as a guide to how the world came about? It contains so many scientific, historical and moral inaccuracies that it is completely and totally fictional.

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Hey, idiot! If your god designed us we would be perfect, simply because as the perfect, ultimate, being that's how he'd design us.

No, fool. It doesn't follow logically that a perfect god must create perfect creatures.

Of course the whole of the coffin is the fact that evolution has tons of evidence for it whereas creationism only has evidence to disprove its premises.

Evolution is irrelevant to the existence of god, idiot.

It does, idiot.  If a god creates imperfect beings, that shows that it too is imperfect. And while evolution doesn't disprove a generic god* it does show that such a being is not necessary for us to exist.

*It does disprove the abrahamic god, because it shows that the claimse made about said god are false.