The Watchmaker: my fav argument

[Angrboda]

When you quote the bible all you are doing is echoing others made up excuses. If you have evidence that the earth ever existed  in any other way than we see it through its history could you show it ?

Biblical literacy is required to make a coherent objections. Otherwise, it's like making some contrarian claim about Harry Potter but refusing to hear quotations from the books.

If you already knew the Earth was created good and subsequently fell according to the story (and perhaps I've misunderstood you). Why did you imply that God created an earth that "seems not ideal?"

Which other god was it that intervened and made the world a fallen one?

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Prospero: Look at this! It's perfect! It must have been designed!

Gildenstern: What about this odd bit over here?

Prospero: In a fallen world, that's to be expected!

Gildenster: So heads you win, tails I lose, I guess.