RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 9, 2021 at 12:05 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2021 at 12:17 pm by possibletarian.)
(March 9, 2021 at 8:31 am)Belacqua Wrote: To say that the world is imperfect seems to me to be of the second type. It means that the world isn't the way we WANT it to be. But why should it be what we want? And why do we assume that our desires are at all important to an omniscient being? I understand that we really really don't want there to be cancer in children, but again, saying that such things make the world imperfect is merely to say that we don't LIKE it.
Well no I don't like when people die of cancer of course not, but I accept they do, it has nothing to do with humility, unless you can provide proof of something to be humble to, which clearly you cannot. It has nothing to do with personal desires for it to be better it's simply an observation of what an intelligent being may expect from a creator others claim is perfect.
The problem is the claims made about a persons chosen deity, who in the case of christianity claim is a perfect being, that created a world that same being declared as 'good'. Perhaps good does not mean good in the way that we expect, in which case what's is the point of using the word at all, if it's totally disconnected from anything we can understand.
Who in their right minds creates a loving, perfect god that creates a habitat for those he treasures and loves, that kills them and make their lives a misery ? Sure if we take words we know like good, perfect. caring, loving kindness, and change the application of them to allow for an unprovable diety that does not act when the same objects of affections die, then we have created the christian god.. well done
(March 9, 2021 at 9:30 am)Klorophyll Wrote:(March 9, 2021 at 8:34 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: and sees no problems with a god who makes kiddie cancer world.
I don't get it why you fools still allude to the problem of evil. We are not omniscient beings, THEREFORE we cannot say "kiddie cancer is inherently bad". What if these dead children are having better lives than you and I at this moment, right now ? So, again ...are you an omniscient being ?
Would your god look at kiddie cancer, sit back and proclaim 'this is good' ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
