The Watchmaker: my fav argument

[Belacqua]

I am not making #2 & #3– I am merely pointing out other possible hypotheses people can make. There could be more.

That's true, there could be a lot more.

But I am only responding to #1. If you do agree to #2 & #3 then you should present and predictive model based on which they make sense to you.

And I repeat that your analysis of #1 fails, as far as I'm concerned, because you're judging based on your own ideas of what constitutes successful design. And we have no reason to think that an omniscient God would agree with you. 

I think 2 is theoretically possible, and I haven't seen anyone make a coherent argument against it. I also said that 3 is unproven because we'd have to know what "success" looks like in designing a universe, and human beings aren't equipped to do that. 

So maybe that's as far as the present conversation takes us.

As for the name is concerned, i have seen servers (computers) and conference rooms named after greek and roman gods. I never thought for a minute they signify anything more than just identifying things/places etc, 

It's strange to me that people even use these names if they choose to deracinate them completely. If the name Apollo completely lacks its traditional referents, then you might as well use Mickey Mouse or Diarrhea as your name, and just announce that those words don't refer to their usual meanings either. 

like they used to name planets etc.  I would assume that when someone sees jupiter or apollo they just would have cursory greek reference in mind, not some advanced greek stuff because greek mythology isn’t even taught in many places in the world including where i come from.

When they named the planets after Greek and Roman gods they had good reasons for doing so. It wasn't random. People used to know what the names meant and knew when they were appropriate. It was all integrated into a coherent system. 

There's a serious problem with dumbing down in our culture. Knowing who Apollo is and why he's traditionally contrasted with Dionysus is not "some advanced greek stuff." It's something that anyone with a basic liberal arts education knows. I mean, apologies if you're still in high school or something. 

It's strange, because the famous generation of physicists -- Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg, et.al. -- were educated men who knew philosophy. They were clear about how ancient Greek thought had been important to them. All the important German-language thinkers -- Goethe, Marx, Freud, Nietzsche -- and a lot of them who are important but you've probably never heard of -- Schiller, Heine, Rilke, etc. etc. -- had a foundational education in classics. So did British people for a long time. The concepts they got from the Greeks and interpolated into modern culture continue to shape the way people think about the world. 

Somehow modern education has cut that all off at the neck. It makes discourse shallower, and narrowed the imaginations of people. This affects and weakens the limits of what we can think.