The Watchmaker: my fav argument

[Belacqua]

Hmm I wasn't aware that saying there are other worlds with representatives that had to meet before God made the Bible sound less fictitious lol.

Perhaps it's a view unique to my church. Though I suspect LDS and JWs may have similar views. Here are some quotes from the late 1800s:

"Many seem to have the idea that this world and the heavenly mansions constitute the universe of God. Not so." -Review and Herald, March 9, 1886.

"God has worlds upon worlds that are obedient to His law. These worlds are conducted with reference to the glory of the Creator. As the inhabitants of these worlds see the great price that has been paid to ransom man, they are filled with amazement" -Review and Herald, September 25, 1900.

I hadn't noticed the line in Job that hints at other worlds. 

There was a Bishop in the 15th century who, due to his work in the mathematics of infinity, proposed that the universe isn't geocentric and that what look like stars to us could be other planets, with inhabitants looking at us. This was decades before Galileo.

Of course he was burned at the stake.

Ha ha. No he wasn't. He was a high-level Vatican official and special envoy for several popes.

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John 3:16

Hmm human-centric means God loves the world? Perhaps a more accurate word is anthropophilic.

Yeah, I don't think we were using "human-centric" to refer to God. 

I was using it to talk about judgments of the design of the universe which use human criteria to judge success or failure. The idea that a lot of space is wasted because humans can't use it is human-centric.

I agree that anthropophilic is better when talking about God. For one thing, God is said not to have a center, so anything "centric" wouldn't apply. The philia in anthropophilic refers to love, but doesn't rule out loving other things too.