RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game
March 18, 2021 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2021 at 2:46 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(March 18, 2021 at 12:21 pm)Superjock Wrote:(March 18, 2021 at 11:20 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a good question, what would the point be, of trying to convince a person of anything, if they have concerns about the impossibility of knowledge?
Say, if a person sits in wide eyed wonder at how another person might know their own name, or that they exist.
I'm starting to think that you may be dealing with a person who thinks he's laying brilliant rhetorical traps for the other guy, but something else just keeps happening, instead...atheism isn't the belief that knowledge is impossible - but if your friend wants to chase that bird......
Was I wrong with what I said? That I can't NOT exist? If a theist asks you how do you know you exist...
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Nothing is wrong with what you said. Nudger is pointing out that trying to debate with someone who doesn’t believe anything is truly knowable, about anything, is a futile endeavor. This Darth fellow is basically setting up a trap for you so that he may avoid making a positive case for his own position. It’s really not as clever as he thinks it is. Presups make the same presuppositions about reality that we do. The difference is they add a god.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
