(March 20, 2021 at 9:28 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(March 20, 2021 at 8:49 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Your claim that it is an argument against evolution rather than an argument for design is false because it metonymously refers to both.
I agree, as you point out, that it can refer to both of these arguments; I have not made a claim to the contrary. What I am against, however, is the deductive argument that intelligent design predicts irreducible complexity. Keep in mind that you are responding to my response to Nudger, who forwarded such an argument: "It [intelligent design] posited an irreducible complexity which does not exist." He therefore concludes that intelligent design has "been falsified."
That is an invalid argument.
Please link me to the post where he says this.
As to whether you made a claim to the contrary, in post #516 you expressed skepticism over whether Nudger possessed an argument that demonstrated that "irreducible complexity" was an argument for design rather than against evolution. At this point, it's not clear whether you are claiming the opposite as at that point, your intent was ambiguous. You removed that ambiguity in post #518 when you declared that, "Irreducible complexity is specifically an argument against evolution. There's no debate here, so please don't waste my time." Your intent became clear at that point that you weren't merely suggesting that Nudger lacked the rhetorical acumen to prosecute the contrary but that he indeed was incapable of proving the contrary as it is not in fact true. That is a claim, and one which I've shown that you were wrong about due to the lack of specificity of your reference. You are refuted, sir.