RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 21, 2021 at 12:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2021 at 12:24 pm by Angrboda.)
(March 21, 2021 at 11:57 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(March 21, 2021 at 11:12 am)Angrboda Wrote: He didn't say that it predicted irreducible complexity nor did he make a deductive argument, at least in that post.
And yet he's still presenting such a deductive argument.
Nudger: "ID did... predict that they would observe specified complexities, and irreducible complexities."
You've overlooked the ambiguity in the term 'ID', which is both a set of arguments and a social movement. Since he states that it's a matter of public fact and that they ("ID") did predict it, the phrase you reference could refer to either the intelligent design movement, or the arguments and theories. The principle of charity suggests that you take the most charitable interpretation which is that he was referring to the movement. He can clarify if he likes. Anyway, if he was referring to the movement, I suspect he would be wrong in that, but it's anybody's guess whether any prominent IDer made such a prediction. If he was referring to the theory, that's another story, which I'll explore when and if it becomes necessary.
ETA: Btw, I don't tend to read as closely these days as I once did, and the Nudger is neither rigorous nor concise in his arguments, but he's a smart guy, so while I don't always read his posts scrupulously, I generally cut him some slack knowing his proclivities.