RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 21, 2021 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2021 at 2:18 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(March 21, 2021 at 12:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Since he states that it's a matter of public fact and that they ("ID") did predict it, the phrase you reference could refer to either the intelligent design movement, or the arguments and theories.
In a petty attempt to win, and review some of my class notes, let’s take a dive into argument reconstruction:
(TL/DR - I'm right, he's wrong, and you've wasted my time.)
Step One: Close Analysis
“Intelligent design isn't [discounting term] about aliens and you know it [abusive assurance], lol. If you want people to take you seriously [abusive assurance], try taking yourself seriously [abusive assurance] first? At any rate, [discounting term] suppose [guarding term] that ID was about aliens...it's still [conclusion marker] been falsified. It posited [premise maker] an irreducible complexity which [premise marker] does not exist. I see you butchering sim theory [abusive assurance] - it's not actually [discounting term] an intelligent design theory, but go off, I guess? [negative evaluation]”
Step Two: Remove excess verbiage
“Intelligent design isn't about aliens and you know it, lol. If you want people to take you seriously, try taking yourself seriously first? [tangent] At any rate, suppose that ID was about aliens [road marker]
...it's still [conclusion marker] been falsified. It posited [premise maker] an irreducible complexity which [premise marker] does not exist.
I see you butchering sim theory- it's not actually an intelligent design theory, but go off, I guess?” [tangent]
Step Three: List explicit arguments in standard form
- P1: It posited an irreducible complexity
- P2: which does not exist
- C3: it's still been falsified
Step Four: Clarify
- P1: Intelligent Design posited an irreducible complexity
- P2: Irreducible Complexity does not exist
- C3: Intelligent Design has been falsified
- If intelligent design is true, then irreducible complexity exists.
- "Design doesn't necessarily imply irreducible complexity...." -Angrboba, March 2021.
I hereby declare this case closed. No further arguments shall be heard. Thank you.