Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion.

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[Serious] Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion.

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RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion.

April 28, 2021 at 11:51 am

It was already known and accepted by experts* at the time that Galileo was correct. What pissed the churhc off was not that Galileo claimed the Sun being in the center of our solar system, but quite publicly adressign it, foring the papacy to comment.
It was not about knowledge, methods how to gain it, science or religion, it was all about authority. Galileo publicy undermined the authority of the papacy/church. This could not be tolerated!

What Belaqua posted....meh, mostly irrelevant and strawmen. His usual modus operandi. Boooring

* Those experts were mostly part of the clergy, since mostly clergy had the ability to get some advanced education back then.

Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse

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Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by spirit-salamander - April 25, 2021 at 6:18 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 25, 2021 at 7:07 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 25, 2021 at 7:07 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 25, 2021 at 7:48 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 25, 2021 at 8:48 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 8:53 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 25, 2021 at 8:59 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 9:04 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by arewethereyet - April 25, 2021 at 9:07 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 9:21 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by arewethereyet - April 25, 2021 at 9:29 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 9:33 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 9:38 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by arewethereyet - April 25, 2021 at 11:39 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Nay_Sayer - April 28, 2021 at 2:17 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 25, 2021 at 9:12 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 9:24 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 25, 2021 at 9:26 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 9:31 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 7:51 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 25, 2021 at 7:57 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 8:09 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by arewethereyet - April 25, 2021 at 8:43 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 25, 2021 at 11:02 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by LadyForCamus - April 28, 2021 at 2:25 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Angrboda - April 28, 2021 at 2:46 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Gwaithmir - April 25, 2021 at 8:21 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Brian37 - April 25, 2021 at 8:35 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 8:50 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 25, 2021 at 9:40 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by polymath257 - April 26, 2021 at 9:09 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Fake Messiah - April 26, 2021 at 12:07 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by polymath257 - April 26, 2021 at 2:22 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 26, 2021 at 4:57 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by polymath257 - April 26, 2021 at 7:38 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 26, 2021 at 9:22 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Fake Messiah - April 27, 2021 at 12:23 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 27, 2021 at 4:23 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 27, 2021 at 7:01 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 28, 2021 at 6:09 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 28, 2021 at 7:17 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by polymath257 - April 30, 2021 at 7:35 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by brewer - April 30, 2021 at 7:44 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 30, 2021 at 8:07 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by brewer - April 30, 2021 at 9:34 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 30, 2021 at 11:53 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by brewer - April 30, 2021 at 4:57 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 25, 2021 at 11:06 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by brewer - April 25, 2021 at 12:14 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Abaddon_ire - April 25, 2021 at 5:45 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Fake Messiah - April 26, 2021 at 2:50 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by spirit-salamander - April 26, 2021 at 6:56 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 26, 2021 at 7:33 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by spirit-salamander - April 26, 2021 at 8:27 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Silver - April 26, 2021 at 8:30 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - April 26, 2021 at 8:53 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 26, 2021 at 9:07 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by brewer - April 26, 2021 at 7:36 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 26, 2021 at 7:43 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2021 at 3:31 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by The Grand Nudger - April 27, 2021 at 5:36 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by The Grand Nudger - April 27, 2021 at 10:52 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 27, 2021 at 11:30 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - April 28, 2021 at 12:18 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by arewethereyet - April 28, 2021 at 2:19 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 28, 2021 at 2:12 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Angrboda - April 28, 2021 at 11:16 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Deesse23 - April 28, 2021 at 11:51 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2021 at 2:15 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2021 at 2:18 pm

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2021 at 8:50 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - May 3, 2021 at 9:01 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by vulcanlogician - May 3, 2021 at 9:05 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Belacqua - May 3, 2021 at 9:09 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2021 at 10:26 am

RE: Criticism of Aquinas' First Way or of the Proof of God from Motion. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2021 at 12:18 pm

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