Quote:(June 14, 2009 at 1:45 pm)dagda Wrote: This is a little game. Not to be taken too seriously (or too lightly). Convince me atheism is the right path to go down. Just to keep things fresh don't use the classic 'there is no evidence hence such and such does not exist'. Perhaps a little unfair, but if you don't like it, don't post. Anyway, I figure that one of you must have another good argument hidden under your hat.
You are right of not accepting the slogan "there is no....hence...does no exist".
This is my dispute with the Dawkinists who see atheism only from the point of view that there is ALMOST a proven evidence that God does not exist.
I don't deny by any means the scientific veracity of Dawkins' arguments as expressed in his famous book TGD but I argue that there are in the same time undeniable proves that God DOES NOT exist.
This proof is based on the simple question of "who created God "?
The question is opposite to that of "who created the universe with the answer by believers that it was God".
Both questions are of equal weight.
Now,we atheists have a clear and provable answer to it:God is a creation of man.
Against the believe that man was created in the image of God we say without the slightest doubt that God was created by man in his own image.
To be more specific God was created in ancient times in the image initially of objects or animals who
where believed to have supranatural powers and as human society developed in the image of leaders of the society.
The creation of God by man can be explained by a lot of reasons all of them with the purpose of benefit
for all members or for a part of the society.
The frame of this forum does not facilitate to describe all those reasons but along history, till our era
of rationality, religion played an important role in the life of societies as well in the life of individuals.
I affirm that more than the historic creation of God by man, the power of religions consists in the fact that every individual believer re-creates God in his mind ,the very moment he things about him,in the image impregnated in his mind, beginning with the time of his childhood.
It is an individual experience actually lived by almost all of us.
That image differs with every religion but to day most of religions believe in some human figure,mostly an old man,living somewhere high in the sky.
The very believe in heavens of being high in the sky and not down in the earth ( with some exceptions of antic pagan religions) is another proof of creation of them by man.
So in conclusion: yes ,definitely yes, the prove of God being created by man disproves the existence
of a supranatural entity of no beginning or age named currently God.