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But God loves us.
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RE: But God loves us.




(May 26, 2021 at 7:50 am)brewer Wrote: Conditional love can be a bitch.

There is no religion in human history that has ever been about "unconditional love", not Christians, not Muslims, not Jews, not Hindus, not Buddhist or all others.

Humans have always attached their empathy, local success, morality, as being dependent of all outsiders/minorities, and treatment of such, as being dependent on that minority knowing their place. 

Now, having said that, I do think love should be conditional. Not in a blind loyalty context like facisim or an authoritarian god. 

I think empathy should always be the priority in our species. But I will never be a fan of blind loyalty. 

My late mother and I for example, were polar oposites. Both politically and religiously. My late mother was always loyal to me, but not blindly. She always expected me to do the best I could, but never abandon me when I faultered. I never abandon her because of our disagreements. 

But the Abrahamic God isn't about freedom to criticize. It is about blind loyalty ultimately. My mother never would have disowned me for criticizing her religion or economics or politics. I was always more worried about her yelling at me for my living upkeep, or not making the correct turn when driving her somewhere. 

If anyone is familiar with Howard on "The Big Bang Theory" sitcom, one can consider my mother and I the Catholic version of such interaction. 

But that is not blind loyalty. It isn't even close to the Abrahamic Characters of Jews, or Muslims or Christian traditions. My mother and I as much as we fussed and fought, would never have behaived in the authoritarian way the God/'s of Abraham of all 3 are depicted in the holy writings of all three.

Of course love should be conditional. Why should Adam and Eve love God, when the asshole used them as poker chips? Why should Muslims love Allah when he demands they make everyone an enemy? Why should Jews love Yahweh when he doesn't stop things like the Holocaust?

My mom and I fought constantly growing up. But never even with all the frustration between us, did I ever think she would abandon me because I disagreed with her.
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But God loves us. - by ignoramus - May 26, 2021 at 7:15 am
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 26, 2021 at 7:50 am
RE: But God loves us. - by Fake Messiah - May 26, 2021 at 8:01 am
RE: But God loves us. - by no one - May 26, 2021 at 8:29 am
RE: But God loves us. - by ignoramus - May 26, 2021 at 8:36 am
RE: But God loves us. - by Drich - May 28, 2021 at 2:10 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by Brian37 - May 28, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 28, 2021 at 6:34 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by Fireball - May 28, 2021 at 7:17 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by Angrboda - May 28, 2021 at 9:10 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 28, 2021 at 9:14 pm
RE: But God loves us. - by Ranjr - May 29, 2021 at 2:03 am
RE: But God loves us. - by ignoramus - May 29, 2021 at 2:14 am
RE: But God loves us. - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2021 at 2:26 am
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 29, 2021 at 6:53 am
RE: But God loves us. - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2021 at 7:07 am
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 29, 2021 at 7:13 am
RE: But God loves us. - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2021 at 7:56 am
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 29, 2021 at 8:20 am
RE: But God loves us. - by ignoramus - May 29, 2021 at 7:18 am
RE: But God loves us. - by ignoramus - May 29, 2021 at 3:44 am
RE: But God loves us. - by Gwaithmir - May 29, 2021 at 9:55 am
RE: But God loves us. - by brewer - May 29, 2021 at 10:29 am
RE: But God loves us. - by Fake Messiah - May 29, 2021 at 10:35 am

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