RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
June 1, 2021 at 11:56 am
(This post was last modified: June 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm by Drich.)
(May 28, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(May 28, 2021 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: again the bible is a map. people follow it and literally in this life time find God. that is why people follow this bible. and before you lie and say other people of other religions do the same... there is a problem with that. in that according to their holy books they being regular people can't. even in the RC church God does not speak to people one on one. only the pope can have an audience with God. Muslims and jews are the same but only a high prophet or priest have direct access to God. so if anyone from another religion says their religion sat them before God they are claiming to be a prophet by their own religious standards. Only the Holy Bible and the God of the holy bible grant you an audience with God.
You've been corrected on this several times. Either you've got some condition which makes you forget, or you're just a stupid liar.
sweetheart a correction without proper citation is not a correction why cant you understand that?
(May 28, 2021 at 2:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(May 28, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: You've been corrected on this several times. Either you've got some condition which makes you forget, or you're just a stupid liar.
No kidding. The game "Monopoly" has rules, or a "map" too. But it hardly represents economics in a global reality.
see ang-r.. i'm sure you think this a correction as it poo poos on what i said. this is not a correction but mere negative commentary as it does not factually/truthfully position to refute anything i said.. just an observation about monopoly and current economics. which has nothing to contextually do with the subject or my content. again this is why so many of you can 'refute' everything i say several times and i just keep going with the points i've made.
(May 28, 2021 at 2:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(May 28, 2021 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: the vulgate that is being used (and changed currently in the RC church) was compiled in the 16th century.... by your own admission the koine greek bible which our 'protestant bibles' are a direct contextual translation of are from those 1st to 3rd translations yu mentioned. so yeah that 1300 years older than the current addition of the vulgate.
Yeah, as we all know, the rcc was founded in 1600ad. You're the singlemost unserious christian I've ever had the misfortune to stumble across. You do the religion a disservice, and that takes effort. I've never been able to understand what it is that compels a person to bullshit other people about something they take to be sacred.
it's called the bible sport. what i do is modeled by christ himself. Christ shat on the religion of his day, to the point where they killed them. The reason he can do this is because there is a great divide in the mind's eye of God between heart centered worship of him and religion. God hates religion. Paul also modeled this behavior. read the book of galatians basically called everyone in that church a fool for falling into mindless religious practice. What i identify is religiously supported material/doctrine that is not biblically modeled or supported. and take that apart. like praying to saints. when jesus himself says only pray to God. or when they say saturday is the only day to worship or you should take sunday off. I point to the passage that says one may treat one day more holy than another, some may worship a moon festival one may not one may worship the sabbath another treat everyday like the sabbath, what ever you do do it to god. all of these things change in the vulgate that again doesn't get put into circulation till the 1600s. so there is 1500 years of worship prior and all the protestant worship after ( several hundred years) that people maintain and worship scrip[ture as our oldest manuscripts allow, yet you tout me for my worship because it differs from a few hundred years of religion created by the dark ages church. That i am not a serious christian because i do not kneel at an alter that you yourself have determined there is no God? why would someone serious and truthful to themselves worship a god that is completely or near absent?
