Questions for your Religious friends.

[brewer]

Then you're just expressing general angst of christians but start the sentence with 'We', fine. Then they should stop whining.

Are your stating that your church, that sits on property pays property tax? Or are you just playing games with the definition of church and dodging with 'individual members pay taxes therefore..... church'. That's being less than honest.

Before we built our church we bought a piece of property that was taxed before we paid for it. Then we built the building paying taxes on all the material that went into building the building and all the state permits. Then we pay for the utilities to keep the building maintained. We follow all the codes the state requires us to follow to keep the building up and open, a building that offers social services to ALL in need it regardless of age, race, or creed. We as church members pay taxes every year to the government including property taxes on our own homes and businesses...

Oh, I see, no, we don't pay the $600 or so dollars every year on the land that the building sits on. I'm sorry, I would actually love to pay it and have no problems with that except there is the weird idea out there call separation of church and state. I still really don't understand it, but again I'm just a stupid backwards Christian, my feeble little mind has a hard time grasping such concepts.

Great, dodge with 'we pay other taxes and stuff'. It's clear that you don't understand religion's special privilege, it's part of the reason that the nonbelievers have an issue with believers.

Do these 'social services' (a common religious claim that does not rise to the secular tax support issue) come with a helping of god thrown in? The monthly donations I make to our local homeless shelter don't come with a secondary agenda.