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Divine Hiddenness
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RE: Divine Hiddenness
(June 15, 2021 at 1:06 pm)░I░G░N░O░R░A░M░U░S ░ Wrote:
(June 15, 2021 at 12:04 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I was speaking with a long-time friend of the family, who is a practicing Jew, about prayer and why god doesn’t reveal himself to his creation. His explanation was one that I actually had never heard before. Assuming free will for the sake of the argument, I’d say it’s one of the more reasonable (maybe I should say least irrational) explanations for god’s hiddenness that I’ve heard. If our parents followed us around everywhere we went, would we ever really be free to break the rules? Thoughts? 

“Just as God's purpose does not allow man to be a physical prisoner, neither does it permit him to exist in an intellectual prison. How would man behave if God were to constantly reveal Himself? Would he really be free? If man were constantly made aware that he was standing in the King's presence, could he go against His will? If God's existence were constantly apparent, this awareness would make man a prisoner.“

LFC, it's just another tired argument. A fallacy. Full of loaded assumptions.
It's just another extraordinary claim of us being tested. By something or someone. That's a massive elephant in the room which they accept without battering an eyelid.
For someone like us who haven't swallowed the koolaid, we can see that. For the indoctrinated, they don't even question this ridiculous notion. God is testing us?
If something is a god, then we are just as "important" to "him" as living creations as yeast is to us. There is nothing more arrogant than a man's fragile ego.

Basically, it's just snowflake syndrome.

Sure, I’m not presenting it as an argument for god’s existence. I just found it to be an interesting take on the reason for divine hidenness that I hadn’t come across yet.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 12:04 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Silver - June 15, 2021 at 12:09 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 12:17 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by brewer - June 15, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by no one - June 15, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 15, 2021 at 12:43 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by purplepurpose - June 15, 2021 at 12:47 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Neo-Scholastic - June 15, 2021 at 12:54 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by ignoramus - June 15, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 15, 2021 at 2:27 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 15, 2021 at 1:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 1:57 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 2:11 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 2:35 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 15, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Mister Agenda - June 16, 2021 at 9:52 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 2:20 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Pat Mustard - June 16, 2021 at 5:56 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 2:25 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 2:39 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 2:51 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Belacqua - June 15, 2021 at 3:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 3:30 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 15, 2021 at 2:51 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 3:08 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 3:45 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 3:26 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 3:49 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 4:10 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Mister Agenda - June 16, 2021 at 9:55 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 16, 2021 at 11:33 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2021 at 11:36 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 16, 2021 at 11:51 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 17, 2021 at 7:49 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 17, 2021 at 8:26 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 17, 2021 at 8:40 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 17, 2021 at 8:47 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 17, 2021 at 11:47 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 18, 2021 at 12:24 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 3:16 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 3:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 3:30 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 4:10 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 3:54 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 5:01 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 15, 2021 at 9:54 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by John 6IX Breezy - June 15, 2021 at 10:36 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 21, 2021 at 6:11 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Fake Messiah - June 15, 2021 at 4:19 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 4:35 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 4:50 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 6:25 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 6:44 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by arewethereyet - June 15, 2021 at 6:50 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 5:07 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 6:51 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 6:53 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by arewethereyet - June 15, 2021 at 7:15 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 15, 2021 at 7:07 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by HappySkeptic - June 15, 2021 at 8:17 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 17, 2021 at 12:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 17, 2021 at 12:45 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 17, 2021 at 1:02 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Ranjr - June 17, 2021 at 6:20 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 17, 2021 at 6:26 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 19, 2021 at 9:21 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 15, 2021 at 7:11 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 15, 2021 at 7:33 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Ranjr - June 16, 2021 at 12:10 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2021 at 9:55 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2021 at 5:50 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Silver - June 17, 2021 at 8:28 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Silver - June 17, 2021 at 8:48 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 18, 2021 at 9:57 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Nay_Sayer - June 18, 2021 at 11:40 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by arewethereyet - June 18, 2021 at 11:47 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by brewer - June 18, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Anomalocaris - June 18, 2021 at 7:47 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Angrboda - June 18, 2021 at 8:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2021 at 5:34 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 20, 2021 at 3:59 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 20, 2021 at 3:20 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 20, 2021 at 3:32 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by arewethereyet - June 20, 2021 at 4:55 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by R00tKiT - June 24, 2021 at 10:07 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Fake Messiah - June 24, 2021 at 10:54 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 20, 2021 at 5:34 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Neo-Scholastic - June 20, 2021 at 7:33 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 20, 2021 at 8:18 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2021 at 1:35 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 22, 2021 at 1:21 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2021 at 1:35 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 20, 2021 at 7:41 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 12:03 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by vulcanlogician - June 21, 2021 at 1:54 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2021 at 2:11 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Brian37 - June 23, 2021 at 6:43 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Neo-Scholastic - June 21, 2021 at 6:14 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2021 at 7:23 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 21, 2021 at 6:40 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 21, 2021 at 9:26 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Neo-Scholastic - June 22, 2021 at 1:32 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by LadyForCamus - June 22, 2021 at 4:43 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 10:32 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 22, 2021 at 3:22 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Pat Mustard - June 23, 2021 at 7:20 am
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Paleophyte - June 23, 2021 at 9:49 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2021 at 9:57 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 24, 2021 at 10:36 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Architect Of Fate - June 24, 2021 at 11:03 pm
RE: Divine Hiddenness - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2021 at 11:18 pm

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