RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 24, 2021 at 11:27 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2021 at 11:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2021 at 9:40 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: It really looks like you never read any response, anything, about fatalism. If it were as easy as you make it look like here, rejecting theism would really be a no-brainer. Let's repeat that again: so far, you didn't present any definition of free will, you're only repeating what foreknowledge entails. Yes, God knows what I will select and choose my entire life. These selections are there as a result of free will, in other words, God knows the outcomes of my free will, and there is no contradiction here . It really seems that this is too hard for you to understand.
Or, to use your own words, you merely stumbled through what you would've chosen by free will, all of it leading certainly and inevitably to the end. See, no contradiction
Rejecting theism is even easier than understanding the incompatibility between foreknowledge and free will. A person doesn't need to know that to know that they think your stories are ridiculous. Here again, it makes no sense to call what you cannot but do a free anything.
Put down magic book, pick up a textbook.
Quote:Clearly, if there is no free will, a theistic God as described in Abrahamic religions cannot exist. But this kind of conclusion is something no atheist can ever dream to establish. I am worried too that you might be a deviant, there is extensive literature about reconciling foreknowledge and free will, I am not sure why you think you solved this by rehearsing the definition of foreknowledge.See, I had a suspicion it would be something completely derp, like this. There's no reason why that's clear, and..in fact, a significant number of abrahamic cultists don't believe that man has a free will. There isn't any literature about reconciling foreknowledge and free will. You need it to be true because you believe it imperils your god...even though it doesn't. Meanwhile, it is fairly clear that and why foreknowledge precludes free will, as you notice...by definition. Seems to me that a god breathed truth ought to stand up to more scrutiny than that.
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