RE: forbidding people to love each other
July 2, 2021 at 6:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2021 at 6:43 pm by R00tKiT.)
(July 2, 2021 at 9:44 am)WinterHold Wrote: You don't have the right to harm homosexuals, just like you don't have the right to harm any person doing what they want.
Banning homosexuality should be "self inflicted"; I mean there is no "consequences" on the society from the same sex relationship.
As a Muslim, there is not a single verse saying that "gays" should be punished;
There is not a single verse about the punishment for consuming alcoholic beverages, either. It's widely known that the punishment for that is forty lashes.
You are an adept of Quranism, you only accept what is in the Qur'an and reject all major collections of authentic hadiths. That's the only reason why you consider homosexuality to be a banal sin. Rigorously, no sin is banal in Islam
(July 2, 2021 at 9:44 am)WinterHold Wrote: But search the whole Quran; flip its pages; read it once and twice then thrice: there is no penalty that should be implemented from a "government" towards gay people.
Um.. You're not taking Muhammad's sayings into account, which are, for most Muslims who take their religion seriously, a reference for jurisprudence, in addition to the Qur'an.
(July 2, 2021 at 9:44 am)WinterHold Wrote: God told people that homosexuality is a wrong; terrible deed. But so as impregnating women and leave poor bastard kids to battle the world without a family, so as the filthy religious institutions that control the masses like sheep to rob their money, just like countries like the U.S and Russia stacking atomic weapons, just like bankers who rape humanity out of its naturally owned fortunes given to them by God.
You're free to open a thread about "leaving poor bastard kids to battle the world" (???), this thread is about homosexuality, so we're going to discuss homosexuality
(July 1, 2021 at 10:42 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: The thing about this essay is that it shows just how slimy WLC is.
I've listened to entire lectures from this guy... philosophy lectures, not apologetics or debate. In these, he well demonstrates that he can do critical thinking.
He knows better than to cite Leviticus as reasoning for adopting a particular attitude toward homosexual acts. And he knows that the vast majority of Christians don't even care about what the Bible says... they just want their bigotry excused.
WLC said in his debate with Hitchens that he cares about what's true, not about what the majority of christians say or do. Leviticus clearly condemns the homosexual act. The discussion really should stop here for a christian. It's a non-starter and there is no way around forbidding it