Atheism: The True Path?

[fr0d0]

They answer questions of the subject. Who is God; what we need to do to live healthily spiritually etc.

So questions with no discernable value then?

To you wanting to understand from the perspective of science. No none.

I make the point though that you're happy for there to be gaps in your understanding from science and can dismiss any need to think because 'one day, science will know everything'. That's my point.

You didn't make it very well then but, more to the point, conceding gaps in our knowledge, conceding that science is not absolute, that's its explanations are not necessarily the last word is an inherent strength in the philosophy and not a weakness as you appear to be implying.

So you say that It's a strength in 'the philosophy in science' yet a weakness in theology. To me this seems a glaringly obvious contradiction.

'Science of the gaps' seems very succinct.

It isn't a 'claim'. It's a reasonable proposition. At least quite equal to at your proposition that the multiverse is timeless. Your insistance that theological ideas are also scientific claims isn't of theology's making.

No it isn't because you have yet to demonstrate that your god exists ... I could equally well say the cosmic cream cake is timeless and exists outside of time and that would ALSO be meaningless ... defining something for which there is no validatable evidence and calling it god doesn't confer upon it some hyped value (over other silly ideas).

You know very well that it would be absurd to suggest a demonstration that god exists. This shows blatantly that science is totally inadequate. I don't entertain such ludicrous notions, yet you do taking the scientific philosophy tach.

Meaningless it isn't; if you were to remove your science coloured spectacles you'd see the point. The point is that there is no evidence. Clear this hurdle and you can move on.

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Sorry to butt in, Kyu- I know you don't need or want me to, but I'll bleed through my eyes if I don't add a quick note of my own to the table.

Quite the contrary ... there are times I feel almost alone in fighting this kind of stuff. Frodo (as I think most of us will admit) is smart and relentless ... he must be stopped

Kyu

"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."