RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
September 1, 2021 at 11:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2021 at 11:39 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 1, 2021 at 9:56 am)Jehanne Wrote: can be generated artificiallysnipped for brevity
(September 1, 2021 at 10:56 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The existence of counterfiet money isnt proof that real money doesnt exist
Both sets - the lab observed and the god alleged - are artificial, both sets are counterfeit, regardless of whether a god or a researcher touched them. Brain states can be induced, and the inducement of these states produces effects consistent with reported experience.
No one trying to explain how these experiences occur with this sort of research is positing that the experiences don't exist. They're trying to work out how they do exist.
In direct equivalence, the observance of induced brain states isn't proof that uninduced brain states don't exist, sure...but what would that have to do with brain states induced by gods?
You're up there talking about inauthentic experiences..inauthentic to what? Are they not having the reported experiences? Are you using inauthentic as shorthand for "not induced by gods"...or? Artificial would include, by definition, any artifice of any gods...such as a god making them see something, or feel something.
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