RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
November 2, 2021 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2021 at 12:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 2, 2021 at 10:29 am)Ahriman Wrote: Let's not pretend like suffering is the same for everyone.......most people don't suffer very deeply, so their suffering is trivial compared to someone who suffers deeply. No matter what afflicts most people, they can take it, because their threshold for suffering is very high. So all this reference of, "But what about AIDS, ebola, malaria, cancer etc." is just stupid.
Is it, or have you completely misunderstood it? Sure, the amount of pain or suffering a person feels might be more or less for some given x and we do take that into account when we moralize over x - but being evil in the case of inflicting aids, ebola, malaria and cancer on people or being capable of resolving these things but choosing not to is not evil -only- when it's done to people with a low threshold for suffering. Such that, being the kind of douche who would do that isn't as bad or so bad when you just stick it to the stoics. It's about the personal responsibility of a competent moral agent. Do you take any, do you believe that a god has any? Is it even competent...because that would be a hard defeater for any ethical question about god's responsibilities, at least. Maybe it just can't get right, like a busted human being? We definitely hand out mulligans to incompetents.
Meanwhile, the act is itself an evil act - and so, not logically consistent with a god that is claimed to do no evil. Perfectly fine for meat grinder god. That may just be the way that gods are. Or so it would seem if this world is claimed to be evidence of a gods attributes and interests in every particular.
Just to get ahead of the next batshit complaint since it's already reared it's misbegotten head before - maaaaaybe there's some mysterious reason™! A wonderful conjecture, but..also, explicit agreement with the argument - the claim there is no apparent reason for this, and this god is..apparently...indifferent, incompetent, malevolent, or some combination of those things, if not all of those things - in addition to be logically incoherent on the grounds of it's own claims prima facia. I know...I know, why call something like that a god and grovel at it's feet and embarrass yourself online in front of strangers on it's behalf? Kloro understands the concept of a shit god concept even though he inconsistently applies it. How about you?
Well, friend, that's exactly the question the problem of evil proposes, as it just so happens.
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