(November 3, 2021 at 10:56 am)Brian37 Wrote:(November 3, 2021 at 10:47 am)GaryAnderson Wrote: In this topic I’d like to discuss who should use science to support their position.
Should it be atheists, theists, any other group, or just all people in general without any discrimination?
Science is basically a tool which allows us to understand the How but not the Why sometimes. Science is a strict peer-reviewed process which can change its position based on new evidence. So Science doesn’t care either way of the implications and this is as close as we can get to an unbiased process.
The question is do you folks here have any problems with any groups using science to support their position?
My answer to this question is : I don’t have any problems with anybody using science to support their beliefs. Anybody can use it without discrimination.
Nobody "owns" scientific method. But it is also wrong to use science to point to a religious club. A computer works in Japan, Iran, Australia, and America. Planes fly into every country. Vaccines work in every country. It is true that religious people can and do value science, but ethical scientists do not bastardize scientific method just to act as a billboard ad to point to their club.
The children's hospital "St Jude" may seem well intended, and it does try to cure childhood cancer. But the name alone implies, "look what we did, there for the Catholic Jesus is the one true God". That part I do not like. It is great they want to save kids from cancer, but there is no God trying to save them.
But I have over 20 years of debate online seen arguments from Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists whom all argue that science points to their club. Point being, scientific method is not about supporting one's own personal bias, but objectively seeking out answers regardless of personal bias.
Sounds like you hate the word “hope”.