(November 3, 2021 at 11:04 am)GaryAnderson Wrote:(November 3, 2021 at 11:01 am)Ten Wrote: Theists shouldn't be using science to support their beliefs if it all comes back down to "faith" anyway. Essentially faith is saying that observation or evidence doesn't matter, so, using science feels like a waste of time for them. If theists could actually use science to support/prove their claims then there wouldn't be atheists and there would be no need for faith. Because then anything god related would simply be science, it would just be facts.
Yes but science cannot and will not give us the answers to existential questions such as “Why does the universe exists” or “why do we exist” so some people like Michio Kaku and other theoretical physicists make leaps of faith based on educated guesses to attempt to answer “the why”.
Why not? Either something, a being with intent exists or it doesn't. You're conceding the point of atheists in withholding belief in something not proven if you say that science, the study of the physical world, could not ever give us the answer of "why". If your god is real and made everything with intent, then it could conceivably, eventually be proven in some way. And the proving would be using science(physical observation and testing, even in a rudimentary way). And the why could simply be "this happened as a result of this" which science could also illustrate.