(November 3, 2021 at 11:08 am)Deesse23 Wrote:Yes. I’m not going to spend energy to explain this to you but this is a fact.(November 3, 2021 at 11:07 am)GaryAnderson Wrote: You need to look this up more but the universe is fine-tuned for lifeNope
(November 3, 2021 at 11:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:This is another interpretation which is also acceptable. But if the parameters of gravity were to change by a small amount, the universe and its lifespan wouldn’t have existed for very long. There’s also the theory of Universal Consciousness here which could fit your interpretation that even in a short-life universe, awareness exists and that’s as close as you can get to “life”.(November 3, 2021 at 11:07 am)GaryAnderson Wrote: You need to look this up more but the universe is fine-tuned for life and this is confirmed and mentioned by many scientists. This means that you don’t like theists using this fact to support their position.
Not precisely. Life has tuned itself to the universe (more specifically, to environments within the universe).
Boru
(November 3, 2021 at 11:10 am)Ten Wrote:(November 3, 2021 at 11:04 am)GaryAnderson Wrote: Yes but science cannot and will not give us the answers to existential questions such as “Why does the universe exists” or “why do we exist” so some people like Michio Kaku and other theoretical physicists make leaps of faith based on educated guesses to attempt to answer “the why”.
Why not? Either something, a being with intent exists or it doesn't. You're conceding the point of atheists in withholding belief in something not proven if you say that science, the study of the physical world, could not ever give us the answer of "why". If your god is real and made everything with intent, then it could conceivably, eventually be proven in some way. And the proving would be using science(physical observation and testing, even in a rudimentary way). And the why could simply be "this happened as a result of this" which science could also illustrate.
I think you’re missing the point here. Do you have a problem with people using science to philosophize? Or theists to support their beliefs?
Nobody will know for sure either way because if we did we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Philosophers and theists and other people make leaps of faith based on educated guesses.