(November 3, 2021 at 11:20 am)GaryAnderson Wrote:(November 3, 2021 at 11:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: It's not who owns the science but who listens to the evidence. Religions and dictatorships usually put ideologies in the first place and then ignore and forbid evidence that proves them wrong.
Like many Christians insist that Adam must have existed, that Noah's flood really happened, or that shroud of Turin was really Jesus funeral shroud or that blood of St. Januarius really turns into rocks and then fluid, etc. and ignore all the evidence that contradicts their dogma and persecute the scientists.
Sigh. There is no scientific evidence as to Why does the universe exists. This is where philosophy and belief begins.
So is this topic about why the universe exists or "who owns the science"?
Science can explain why the universe exists in relation to the forces that created it, just like it can explain why some mountain exists or a river or a rock or a fjord.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
