(November 3, 2021 at 3:21 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:Yes, the universe being a random accident is also a know stance here among skeptics and atheists. The statistical probability of this accident is explained by the existence of the infinite multiverse where universes collide and create baby universes or new Big Bangs. Infinite being the key concept there, as well as being a philosophy.(November 3, 2021 at 2:59 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: Dude, these are claims made using science. They can’t be proven. So basically you don’t want anybody to make claims using science. Fair enough.
The intelligence of my God is not the point. The point is do you have any problems with anyone using science to support their beliefs?
Thank you !
Because it’s a mathematical brute fact. You’ve heard about brute facts I assume. Like the universe exists - that’s a brute fact.
Yes, some of us have heard of brute facts but I do not think you are there yet. Does the universe exist in the the particular way that it does by necessity or could it have been otherwise? To what exactly, i.e. what kind of objects, do the symbols of the math equation "2 + 2 =4" refer?
That’s also a valid position which I’m not dismissing. I just have different beliefs on fine-tuning that’s all. And I don’t mind others using string theory to say that a multiverse exists.