(November 3, 2021 at 4:04 pm)Angrboda Wrote:Yes understood. Thank you for saying that you have “ no problem with people arguing from fine tuning toward some conclusion”. That’s all I’m asking here.(November 3, 2021 at 11:17 am)GaryAnderson Wrote: Yes. I’m not going to spend energy to explain this to you but this is a fact.
If you're going to claim something, then you need to back it up with support or accept that your claim can be readily dismissed.
I have no problem with people arguing from fine tuning toward some conclusion, but that's not science but rather a philosophical argument. Nothing can be concluded from the constants of the universe without knowing why they are what they are. Is it possible the universe was fine tuned? Sure. But there's no way to tell whether it was or it wasn't from the constants themselves. That means the hypothesis is unfalsifiable. If the hypothesis is unfalsifiable, then it's not a scientific hypothesis. Therefore do be tuning is not science.
It's not even good philosophy because all the fine tuning argument says is, "If things were different, then things would be different." We don't need to know anything about science to know that. And that's the long and short of "fine tuning."
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