Why Why?

[The Grand Nudger]

If people want to call that order, they can I suppose but what is order?

Order is generally believed to be an organized state, as opposed to disorder, a disorganized state.  A popular example being a puzzle complete, and a puzzle in pieces.  Another could be a tree, and loose fiber.

I’m not sure if I understood you.
Having questions such as “Why I exist” is not related to death. It’s just human curiosity which is tied to the desire to know, desire to explore, curiosity. These are tied to emotions. We are all emotional machines.

“What happens when I die”, “Where do I go when I die”, those ones are related to escaping death, which are also related to emotions.

I was wondering about the whys of why outside of mortality and our attempts to evade it - since it was mentioned.  I think that we can zero out plenty of answers to why that amount to nothing more than adding minutes to the clock, and people have been known to clean their clocks entirely for the thing or things they think offer the answer to the question of purpose.  In that case, none of our objections to the answers which we've zeroed out would fit.  None of our objections to answers based in mortality would fit.

For me, purpose means having a job to do. The purpose giver is an intelligent being. For example, a hammer is build by an intelligent being and its purpose is to drive nails into wood.
If you want, you could state that nature (a brainless thing) gave us the purpose to procreate, understand natural laws, build cities, build Space shuttles and go explore the rest of the universe.

#1 You can try having that conversation with a christian and I am guessing his response will be “Your god is nature, my god is a caring ultra-being.”
In his mind, you are a blasphemer and you are in the crosshairs of god. You are in big trouble. Pascal’s wager (Pain, torture).

#2 The christian will use the “argument from design” argument. He will say only an intelligent being can design something as complex as DNA.

I also think that having a purpose is akin to having a job or a duty, but I don't think that there has to be any intelligent designer for people to have a job or duty.  I'm unconcerned with christian answers.   

Procreation, understanding natural laws, building cities, space shuttles, exploration..all fantastic.  I'd add drinking coffee, tickling my kids, buying the groceries of the customer ahead of me in line.  If we're just sticking to the positive, ofc.  

If you want to claim that nature (a brainless thing) gave you a purpose, you could.
For a theist, it creates a problem:
#1 The theist says to himself “I am the superior creature on this planet. I am the most intelligent. I can create a hammer and a VHS player”.
#2 The theist will say to himself “Not even I can create a single cell, a single strand of DNA. How could nature create me? Nature is stupid therefore the natural answer is that a super intelligent being created me.”

As before, I'm unconcerned with the problems that arise when someone premises their worldview on goblins.  Objections to goblins can't be valid objections to the sorts of answers to purpose I'd entertain as serious..as they don't refer to goblins.  I'm not sure it makes sense to object by means of a brainless thing..either.  Ultimately, all of what we do boils down to a brainless thing, as that brainless thing produced our brains.  More a difference in quality than kind when you think about it, imo.  

One word: emotions.
Emotions are part of my programming and it leads me to do certain things. Even though I use logic, emotions play a big role in what I do.
If we had no emotions, would it bother you if I cut you with a knife?

Why do I choose to remain alive? I would have to say that we enjoy being alive instead of just being separate molecules scattered around.

I concede that my thing is no more or less false than the belief that the why is to worship a god.
In other words, maybe there is a god and maybe he wants me to worship him.
That’s fine and dandy but ............ Before I worship him, I would need to have conversations with him.

You being alive vs you being molecules scattered around is a great example of order and disorder.

I can't help but mention I find this bit of the exchange profoundly odd.  The things you've mentioned before and even here are, at least, real.  They're not pixies, or a pixie premised ideology.  These are the things that move you, compel you, flesh out your sense of purpose..but, at the same time, you don't think there's any meaningful difference between them and the idea that you should prostrate yourself before some non existent god....and there's something a god could say about that?

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Sure. Not just do I need to eat, my wife and children are dependent on me to provide. But talking in terms of "providing" is far too simple.

I guess looking at this a bit like Maslow's needs - yes there are drivers at multiple levels, ranging from pure existence to higher ones becoming more selfish. But there is also an angle for most people which is purely about giving, empathy, wanting to improve things in general for themselves as well as other people that is not just about self. 

The answer in my mind is each person derives their own why. I'm sure Donald Trump's reason for getting up in the morning is very different to yours or mine.

I could agree with that.  We all either create or discover some purpose.  That's why I find the casual rejection of natural purpose in toto so interesting.