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Theists: What is your stance on evolution?
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RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution?
(November 18, 2021 at 10:18 am)T.J. Wrote: A long time ago I watched a debunk video at a church that mentioned that dinosaurs are briefly mentioned three times in the bible. I cannot remember where, but they noted three examples of dinosaurs, which are probably seldom descriptions of random beasts they just believe are dinosaurs. But there are certain Christians that believe dinosaurs lived at the same time as man and were killed off by man after the Fall of Man in Eden.

A debunk video at a church? I think you mean bunk video.


The word leviathan appears 5 times in the Bible.

Job  41:1 KING JAMES VERSION
Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? {41:2} Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? {41:3} Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? {41:4} Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? {41:5} Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? {41:6} Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? {41:7} Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? {41:8} Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. {41:9} Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? {41:10} None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me? {41:11} Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. {41:12} I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion. {41:13} Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? {41:14} Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about. {41:15} His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. {41:16} One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. {41:17} They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. {41:18} By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. {41:19} Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. {41:20} Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. {41:21} His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. {41:22} In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. {41:23} The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. {41:24} His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. {41:25} When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. {41:26} The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. {41:27} He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. {41:28} The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. {41:29} Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear. {41:30} Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire. {41:31} He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment. {41:32} He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. {41:33} Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. {41:34} He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride. {42:1} Then Job answered the LORD, and said, {42:2} I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. {42:3} Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. {42:4} Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. {42:5} I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. {42:6} Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes. {42:7} And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my

^^^^^Burning lamp? Smoke coming out of his nostrils?
It could be that they are describing a crocodile with some exagerations.

Or, it could be related to other religions. Something about the dragon of chaos that rules the waters.


Psalm 74:13 KING JAMES VERSION
Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters. {74:14} Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. {74:15} Thou didst cleave the fountain and the flood: thou driedst up mighty rivers.

^^^^^They are talking about  the dragons in the waters.

Psalm 104:25 KING JAMES VERSION
So is this great and wide sea, wherein are things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts. {104:26} There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

^^^^^The leviathan is a beast, he is a dragon, he is in the sea, he is the sea monster.

Isaiah 27:1 KING JAMES VERSION
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that [is] in the sea.

^^^^^Talking about the sea again. Talking about “leviathan the piercing serpent”.




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The word behemoth appears 1 times in the Bible.



Job 40:15 KING JAMES VERSION
Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. {40:16} Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. {40:17} He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. {40:18} His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. {40:19} He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. {40:20} Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. {40:21} He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. {40:22} The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. {40:23} Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. {40:24} He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

^^^^^Stones means testicles.
I have no idea what animal they are describing but perhaps it is an elephant, rhinoceros, hippopotamus.
The description is too vague. There are no measurements included.

There is also the mention of unicorns in the Bible. Perhaps they are talking about the rhinoceros.
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Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Agnostic1 - November 17, 2021 at 11:21 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Angrboda - November 18, 2021 at 10:41 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by no one - November 17, 2021 at 11:57 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ranjr - November 18, 2021 at 12:19 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Paleophyte - November 18, 2021 at 12:42 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by snowtracks - November 27, 2021 at 12:36 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Astreja - November 27, 2021 at 1:51 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Angrboda - November 27, 2021 at 9:58 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Paleophyte - November 28, 2021 at 11:28 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Silver - November 18, 2021 at 12:45 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ranjr - November 18, 2021 at 1:24 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by T.J. - November 18, 2021 at 10:18 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ferrocyanide - November 18, 2021 at 11:08 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ahriman - November 18, 2021 at 10:44 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by T.J. - November 18, 2021 at 10:49 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ahriman - November 18, 2021 at 11:30 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by brewer - November 18, 2021 at 10:31 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by brewer - November 19, 2021 at 8:44 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by brewer - November 19, 2021 at 10:10 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ahriman - November 19, 2021 at 9:16 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by brewer - November 19, 2021 at 12:36 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Angrboda - November 19, 2021 at 10:10 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by tackattack - November 19, 2021 at 12:30 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Angrboda - November 20, 2021 at 8:59 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Agnostic1 - November 21, 2021 at 6:49 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Agnostic1 - November 24, 2021 at 12:35 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Ranjr - November 24, 2021 at 1:25 am
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Agnostic1 - November 24, 2021 at 1:25 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by Agnostic1 - November 26, 2021 at 4:30 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by WinterHold - November 28, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: Theists: What is your stance on evolution? - by WinterHold - November 29, 2021 at 12:50 am

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