RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
December 31, 2021 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: December 31, 2021 at 7:46 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Astreja Wrote: WinterHold, please confront the endemic problem of legalistic maiming of criminals in Islamic societies in the present day.
The Quran -which I'm taking as my personal law- doesn't orders maiming but in two cases:
1-Robbery, by cutting the hand of the thieve -unless pardoned by the victim-.
2-Cutting both the hand & the leg in the case of the criminal is spreading corruption in the land as the verse say:
Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
https://quran.com/5:33?store=false&translations=
Indeed, the punishment for those who fight Allah and His Messenger and rush about in the land spreading corruption is that they be relentlessly killed or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides or be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in the Earlier(Life) , and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment—
— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation
That's the only "maiming" in my religion, and you have to be a Mongol looter or a mafia boss to receive the sentence.
But no touching to the eyes unless the commuter touched the eye of the victim first. Messing with eyes is inhumane.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(December 31, 2021 at 7:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with.
So...
It’s precisely the same topic, which is excessively cruel punishments. She’s asking if your maiming, flogging, beheading society would punish you for joining an atheist website.
They might think it smacks of apostasy.
Boru
It's not related. My societies don't even carry these sentences anymore.
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