RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
January 12, 2022 at 11:03 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2022 at 11:33 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(January 12, 2022 at 10:43 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Also, I just looked into the thing about Fauci demanding a Fox News host be fired on the spot: it was less because he said people should ask Fauci questions, and more the way he phrased it: “Now you go in with the kill shot - deadly. Because, with an ambush, he doesn’t see it coming" and saying that this would lead to Fauci being "dead."
On the one hand, in context, it's pretty obviously a metaphor and not literally calling for violence. On the other hand, he's using this extended metaphor in one of the most volatile times in American history, among an audience that's already primed to hate Fauci, and, since that speech happened at a Turning Point USA event, this little Q&A from one of their other recent events is relevant.
And before you dismiss that as just cherry-picking and irrelevant, well, the thing is, as Mike Figuredo points out, the rhetoric of the far right is so extreme (and also factually wrong) that violence against people like Fauci is its logical conclusion.
And these are the people Jesse Waters was speaking to. Hell, he's working for Fox News, which played a pivotal role in convincing many that Biden's election win in 2020 was illegitimate, and literally all the points that guy in the video was citing as reasons to "use the guns" are being validated by Fox News.
Sounds to me like you are basically doing everything you can to defend someone who is anti-freedom of the press, which makes me question your motive here. Are you also against freedom of the press? You say it was clearly a metaphor, but then go on to defend Fauci anyways? Just admit that the man was wrong, for once.
(January 12, 2022 at 11:01 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(January 12, 2022 at 10:55 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Percentages only mean so much. I have a better than 99.9 percent chance of surviving covid, but that doesn't mean that covid is still not 'dangerous'.
And that 1 in 1000 chance of dying is eight times higher than the 1 in 8070 case of getting a serious side effect after the vaccine.
Is that 1 in 1000 number actually accurate though? What is the real number? Does a 35 year old really have a 1 in 1000 chance of dying after catching covid, and especially Omicron which is pretty darn weak and usually more like the common cold? We have 8 year olds here in Canada being forced to take the vaccine if they want to remain on a little league team. It's disgusting. What's an 8 year olds chance of dying of covid? 1 in 500,000? 1 in a million? And that's with the children usually being obese or having a bunch of other things wrong with their health. We also know nothing of the long term effects of taking these vaccines, so that is another unknown that is still up in the air. I know you're going to entirely disagree with that point, and that's fine, but I take people like Dr. Robert Malone, who is one of the inventors of the MRNA technology, and many other doctors and scientists talking about this, seriously. That doesn't mean that I believe there are going to be terrible effects of the vaccines years down the line, but these highly credentialed people seem to think that this is entirely possible, so as a layperson, I'm going to at least consider what these highly credentialed scientists are saying rather than just handwaving it all away because they disagree with government agencies, who's job is literally to prevent the government from looking bad and to put things in the best light possible, and to push for a one size fits all solution, which is vaccines for all.
