(January 13, 2022 at 12:34 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:(January 12, 2022 at 11:03 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: We also know nothing of the long term effects of taking these vaccines, so that is another unknown that is still up in the air. I know you're going to entirely disagree with that point, and that's fine, but I take people like Dr. Robert Malone, who is one of the inventors of the MRNA technology, and many other doctors and scientists talking about this, seriously. That doesn't mean that I believe there are going to be terrible effects of the vaccines years down the line, but these highly credentialed people seem to think that this is entirely possible, so as a layperson, I'm going to at least consider what these highly credentialed scientists are saying rather than just handwaving it all away because they disagree with government agencies, who's job is literally to prevent the government from looking bad and to put things in the best light possible, and to push for a one size fits all solution, which is vaccines for all.
You do know that if we were really going to suspend release of vaccines until we're sure that there aren't huge long-term effects from the vaccine, things would probably take a needlessly long time before they could be released to the public. I don't know how long you'd say is good, but given how much you've been moving the goalposts throughout this thread, I wouldn't put it past you to say it should be decades. If Jonas Salk were listening to you in the early fifties, we'd probably still be dealing with polio and it'd still be in trial stage, and your grandchildren would be telling anyone telling anyone who said we should just release the damn vaccine that we need more time.
I didn't claim the vaccine shouldn't have been released. I'm simply saying that people shouldn't be compelled to take a brand new vaccine that was put together way more quickly than any other vaccine in history. I took the risk and took the vaccine because of my asthma, so I decided it was a risk worth taking. Others don't want to take it.
Do you support 8 year olds being forced to take the vaccine or get kicked off their little league team, like is happening here in Canada? What are the chances of an 8 year old dying from covid? 1 in 500,000? And that's with most of those children having comorbidities. What's the chance of a healthy child dying from covid? 1 in many millions?