Modal ontological argument

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Modal ontological argument

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RE: Modal ontological argument

February 2, 2022 at 10:23 pm

(February 2, 2022 at 9:51 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(February 2, 2022 at 6:58 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: A world of stuff in which god doesn't exist is a world of stuff.
A world which nothing exists is nothing. Nonexistence.

That's fascinating, but it does bring up a related question. Where did God exist before he created the universe?

For time to exist, there has to be a universe. Therefore questions about "before" the universe are incoherent, as Augustine explained.

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