(June 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Dagda - Whether there can be evidence for the 'spiritual realm'...or not - What?.. - should you just go ahead and believe without evidence??? I myself need evidence to believe--rationally anyway--whether there can be evidence or not.
EvF
Excuse me for cross posting, but I think it's relevant to this thread (possibly more so).
It's impossible to have evidence to believe. You said elsewhere that you believe you have an arm. That would mean you aren't sure that your arm exists. You can be sure because you can sense that it's there. You can feel temperature, pain. You can pick things up.... Unless it's a clever hologram and there's something that moves objects controlled by your mind and transmits pain etc. But then that would be supernatural. If your arm isn't actually real and you're correct in believing in it as a supernatural phenomenon.
I don't have to believe that the Sun will come up because it's an observable fact. I can be pretty sure.
"Often, people confuse belief with fact. Both involve some concept of the Truth, but belief does not really hint at whether something has been proven or not (or whether it even is provable)."
http://faculty.valenciacc.edu/drogers/fa...fact3.html
"A mental perception of the world might not have adequate proof to define something as fact, and is therefore belief or theory."
http://www.innerself.com/Essays/belief.htm
"One is present, provable, undeniable and concrete, the other, howsoever fervently believed, is not"
"The only way belief can be experienced is in the mind. Facts can be experienced both in the mind and by the senses"
"This means that all beliefs have as part of them an implied doubt. Facts cannot be doubted, they are observably real."
http://transsexual.org/belief.html
