RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
February 8, 2022 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2022 at 5:15 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(February 8, 2022 at 4:30 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(February 8, 2022 at 2:48 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: How did I lie? I never claimed that Fauci said it's not better to get the vaccine even if you're going to get Omicron afterward, so that addresses your first concern. And second, I posted a video about intensive care admissions being down and that was a stand alone post. I did not claim I was only talking about the United States. You do know there is more to the world than the United States, right?
You used this quote of his to claim that it’s better to get the virus naturally than try to get vaccinated (and generally pushing the same talking points as many anti-Vaxxers), and you seemed to not read the part (of the headline) where he specifically said that the vaccinated will still be better off. So, I’m going to assume this is IA admitting he legit has trouble making sense of the information you come across.
And, while its true that there is more to the world than the US and UK, the facts don’t seem to support the claim worldwide either, and while I can’t find info on daily ICU visits from COVID, I can find daily deaths from COVID worldwide, and, at the moment, as omicron rises, so have the death tolls from COVID worldwide.
I did not say adults should not get vaccinated, and I've admitted multiple times that getting the vaccine gives you better protection than not. Do I need to put it in my signature to remind people that I've already said that over and over and that this is not a claim I'm disputing?
(February 8, 2022 at 4:38 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(February 8, 2022 at 2:48 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:If it is truly on topic, then make comparisons with the two claims, with evidence that supports that comparison, and do what you can to not lose sight of the original point of the thread. And “They have been shown to have done a bad thing in the past, therefore this similar bad thing must be from then”without supporting evidence is not good rhetoric.
The Russiagate hoax has everything to do with this, and is entirely on topic. Canadian state tv is currently completely fabricating claims about Russians and the truck protests, just like former intelligence officials in the US completely fabricated claims about the Hunter Biden story to interfere in the election on future President Joe Biden's behalf. The Russiagate hoax is relevant when media is trying to use it to smear our movement.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19...nfo-430276
Also, how much of a comparison between Russiagate and the CBC’s claim that the Kremlin is behind the trucker protests, especially when the former is still believed, and the CBC walked back that claim after a few days? That’s not a rhetorical question, by the by?
The burden of proof is on the mainstream to prove their wild Russian conspiracy theories and provide evidence for said conspiracy theories. Not on me. I don't have to prove a negative. When the mainstream keeps lying over and over about Russia and the intelligence community keeps lying to you about Russia, your default position should probably be to be highly skeptical of anything they say, and to require evidence before buying into their wild conspiracy theories, don't you think? And them walking back the claim does not prove at all that it wasn't a wild conspiracy Canadian state tv threw out there with zero evidence to smear an entire movement. You know very well that a lie gets halfway around the world before the true gets a chance to get its' pants on, right? And far less people usually see the correction than see the original claim. You know these things. Stop covering for government funded media that is throwing shit at the wall with zero evidence.
