RE: Atoms = Emotions
November 22, 2011 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2011 at 4:32 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(November 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm)ChristianT Wrote: How is it that the organ known as the "brain," made up of cells which are made up of atoms (carbon, oxygen, etc) can get emotions, feelings and thoughts from an electrical impulse (energy) and make communicate with the other matter in a way that the atoms of the brain can react?
I see you've made 3 posts, so I will do you the courtesy of assuming you'll revisit this thread someday.
How could it not be? Can you give an example of emotions, feelings, and thoughts that don't involve cells, atoms, and electrical impulses? If you're really interested in the 'how', study chemistry, biology, and neurology. Get a layman's understanding, at least.
(November 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm)ChristianT Wrote: Basically, how can bodies which are only matter have life?
Life is a property of bodies. Do you think life is some kind of magic force? If so, are you aware that an entire synthetic bacterial genome has been made from scratch, placed in a denucleated cell, and it lived and reproduced just fine? Living is a process that occurs when matter and energy are in specific configurations, under specific conditions. You are asking us to explain something that you don't have any evidence of in the first place.
(November 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm)ChristianT Wrote: Also, how can abiogenesis work? Life coming from non-life? It sounds similar to matter coming from non-matter (nothing).
That is a result of you thinking being alive involves magic...for which there is no evidence. As for details, Wikipedia has an article on abiogenesis.
(November 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm)ChristianT Wrote: Ps, by life coming from non-life, I DON'T mean organic molecules. Im sure you can make that in a lab. But make some that can talk to others, form a government, and create morals.
Life is made of organic molecules. We are very close to being able to make an entire living synthetic cell. I expect it will take less time to get from being able to create a single cell to being able to create a collection of cells that can talk and form a government and worry about morals than the time between beginning abiogenesis research and achieving that single cell. After all, to get a human being, all we have to be able to synthesize is a single fertilized egg with replicated human DNA. That's because there's no magic involved.
(November 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm)ChristianT Wrote: Only then will I have the proof needed to have faith in abiogenesis. Otherwise it's just blind faith.
Thank you!
You seem to have a peculiar definition of 'blind faith'. To you it seems to mean 'assigning a high probability to the hypothesis with the most physical evidence in its favor'. Abiogenesis doesn't require faith. It's just the best explanation for the origin of life that fits in with what we already know, not least of which being that life as we know it couldn't have survived on earth much before it was half a billion years old. So at one point there was no life and at a later point there was. That's pretty much what 'abiogenesis' means. It's not like we go to the lab on Wednesdays and chant 'abiogenesis is the one true hypothesis'.
Think on this: in Genesis, God supposedly made Adam from dust and cloned Eve from his rib. He brought forth beasts and plants and so forth from the seas and land. All that is bringing life from non-life. Now, what if the dust Adam was made from was a metaphor for the single-celled organisms we are all descended from?
To the audience: I know, but better theistic evolution than creationism.


