(June 22, 2009 at 8:49 pm)padraic Wrote: @LEDO
Second Law of thermodynamics? Funny stuff. You ARE being satirical?
That that same claim is made,often, by theists as proof FOR the existence of God. Their misunderstanding seems to derive from not grasping that the earth is not a closed system.
Thought for today: "Personal certitude is a mark of the closed mind" (Tarquin St John Shagnasty)
No. I am not being funny at all. God, like the universe would have to become more chaotic with time, unless he is constantly expanding etc. For God to be steady and eternal would mean his entropy has somehow ceased. This could only happen if his entropy was at a maximun for his volume, which would mean his chaotic nature would be infinity.
God is described with certain properties. Thought is one of those properties. How does God think? What is the mechanism? How are his thoughts stored? This would require a location. Where?
Quantum Physics claims there is no frame of reference outside of the universe, hence where ever god is located, it must be within the confinds of an expanding universe where entropy (chaos) is increasing.
Nothing exists outside of the "laws" of the universe. God must be defined within those laws, or it cannot exist.
One might claim god, by definition exists outside the laws of the universe, however the laws claim nothing exists outside of them, ergo, "God is nothing."
"On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Cosmic Roots of the Bible" available on the Amazon.