(November 22, 2011 at 2:10 am)Carnavon Wrote: I would assume that if something is true , alternatives would not be true.
Is evolution true? It has been stated on this forum that it is a fact and you did not disagree.
Yes, evolution has been proven the best way to understand the diversity of life. What does that have to do with our conversation again?
Quote:Forgive my ignorance, but it still escapes me how this can be a threat.
You literally demonize those outside your faith. All non-believers or those who follow another religion are either in league with the devil or being duped by him. The first step to atrocity is to dehumanize outsiders.
Quote:As I have indicated above, tolerance should be one of the hallmarks of a Christian.
Yes, and Islam is the religion of peace, yatta yatta. I know Jesus said to turn the other cheek. Muhammad said "do not attack first because Allah doesn't like aggressors." Both religions can preach love, peace and goodwill all they like but all that is quickly forgotten when it comes to saving souls from eternal torment. This is why both religions turn out to be violent when they are not restrained.
Quote:Why is it a danger if this is put forward as the end result of our lives on earth? I would hold an opposite view that not sharing this information will make me irresponsible and not caring about others as “I am OK Jack” and hence more “dangerous” – not to me, but to others. Why is a middle ground important? How many alternatives would you like to have and why? What is your middle ground in the present discussion?
I think I explained that already. Saving souls for all eternity can be used to justify anything.
If murdering an unrepentant atheist to prevent him from corrupting a community of innocent souls can save those souls for all eternity at the cost only of sending one soul to Hell a little early, isn't that a good thing?
Quote:I do not know who suggests that.
Christians have been persecuting pagans, atheists, Jews and other outsiders ever since the days following Constantine. They've only recently stopped because they've been restrained by civilization.
Quote:If I told you that to touch an open and live electric wire will kill you, and advise you that you may safely touch it by disconnecting it from the electricity supply point, how is that terrifying? If the Bible is true, and hell exists, you would want God to warn you?
You keep missing the point. The reason Islamo-Christianity have acted out so violently throughout their history is because of their cause to fight the devil and save souls from Hell.
Regardless of what the Bible says, those who think their neighbors are in league with the devil are capable of doing anything to them. Efforts through Islamo-Christian history to save souls from Hell have repeatedly brought Hell to earth.
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